tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3248412803814730250.post7341183453884155018..comments2024-03-17T01:48:59.504-07:00Comments on The Theropod Database Blog: Patricosaurus is probably not a lizardMickey Mortimerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08831823442911513851noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3248412803814730250.post-53214733159131459112010-07-23T16:39:34.775-07:002010-07-23T16:39:34.775-07:00Thanks again for the reply. I also have no specia...Thanks again for the reply. I also have no specialist knowledge on either lepidosaurs or choristoderes, and Evans could easily be correct in her assessment. Still, you can understand my frustration to be told that I'm wrong, but in order to find out why, I would need to submit a manuscript. Honestly, these taxa are too far out of my range of expertise to consider writing a paper on them (though if I did, Evans would be among my first choices for a reviewer), and I don't strongly refute her conclusion in any case. And since you two so recently redescribed Patricosaurus in detail, I doubt anyone else who's qualified will examine it for some time. Thus we're left in the unenviable limbo of the published evidence suggesting one conslusion, but unspecified argument from authority suggesting another.Mickey Mortimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08831823442911513851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3248412803814730250.post-90587553085086873052010-07-23T01:30:24.657-07:002010-07-23T01:30:24.657-07:00Susan was also an author on the Khurendukhosaurus ...Susan was also an author on the Khurendukhosaurus paper (Ryoko Matsumoto is one of her current PhD students), so she is very familiar with the material and she maintains that Patricosaurus is not a choristodere. Unfortunately, Susan does not have time to respond in person (hence my acting as a go-between - and I have no specialist knowledge of choristodere anatomy to contribute to this discussion), but she's said that she would be more than happy to review any paper you produce for publication on this matter and deal with your comments in depth at that point.Paul Barrettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3248412803814730250.post-26942802645086795002010-07-22T10:47:45.155-07:002010-07-22T10:47:45.155-07:00Thanks for the comment, Paul. It's always gre...Thanks for the comment, Paul. It's always great to get professional opinions on these matters. While I have no doubt that Evans is more familiar with lepidosaur and choristodere morphology than I am (I'm more of a theropod person, go figure ;) ), it would be nice to have some evidence listed, since that in your paper doesn't seem to apply to Khurendukhosaurus.Mickey Mortimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08831823442911513851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3248412803814730250.post-11112742143828973292010-07-22T03:53:09.049-07:002010-07-22T03:53:09.049-07:00Susan Evans I can assure the author of this piece ...Susan Evans I can assure the author of this piece that, having worked extensively <br />on the group, Evans is familiar with choristoderan morphology well beyond <br />that of Cteniogenys. A choristoderan attribution of this specimen was <br />ruled out based on first hand knowledge of the 3-D anatomy of both basal <br />and neochoristoderan morphology, as well as with the full range of lizard taxa.Paul Barrettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3248412803814730250.post-90175112127256079562010-07-20T05:05:49.195-07:002010-07-20T05:05:49.195-07:00*pers. comm. Oops.*pers. comm. Oops.Nick Gardnerhttp://whyihatetheropods.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3248412803814730250.post-63737592870403516682010-07-20T05:05:24.512-07:002010-07-20T05:05:24.512-07:00"Olshevsky (1991) stated Patricosaurus was pr..."Olshevsky (1991) stated Patricosaurus was probably an indeterminate small theropod, citing personal communication from Molnar. However, Molnar stated (pers. comm., 2001) that while he was not convinced it is a lizard, he did not think it was a theropod or even an archosaur."<br /><br />The dangerous of pers. commm. ;)Nick Gardnerhttp://whyihatetheropods.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3248412803814730250.post-35210588221094221972010-07-19T23:48:39.316-07:002010-07-19T23:48:39.316-07:00Oops! Fixed. Ironic that of all people, I mess t...Oops! Fixed. Ironic that of all people, I mess that up. ;)Mickey Mortimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08831823442911513851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3248412803814730250.post-10022944791167666892010-07-19T23:46:01.198-07:002010-07-19T23:46:01.198-07:00Just a small correction,
Sue Evans of Barrett and ...Just a small correction,<br />Sue Evans of Barrett and Evans is a 'she'.Adam Yateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03046084686097124394noreply@blogger.com